陈?? 发表于 2022-8-5 15:17:04

订婚后不合分手,88万天价彩礼是否需返还?

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outline: 0px; max-width: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; overflow-wrap: break-word !important; visibility: visible;">庭审中</strong></p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; padding: 0px; outline: 0px; max-width: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; clear: both; min-height: 1em; visibility: visible; overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><strong style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; outline: 0px; max-width: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; overflow-wrap: break-word !important; visibility: visible;">林某某诉称:</strong></p></section></section></section></section></section></section><section powered-by="xiumi.us" style="margin: 0px 0px 10px; padding: 0px; outline: 0px; max-width: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: system-ui, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica Neue, PingFang SC, Hiragino Sans GB, Microsoft YaHei UI, Microsoft YaHei, Arial, sans-serif; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); justify-content: flex-start; display: flex; flex-flow: row nowrap; visibility: visible; overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><section style="margin: 0px; padding: 30px 20px; outline: 0px; max-width: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; overflow-wrap: break-word !important; display: inline-block; width: 596px; vertical-align: top; align-self: flex-start; flex: 0 0 auto; border-width: 5px; border-style: solid; border-color: rgb(75, 28, 10); visibility: visible;"><section powered-by="xiumi.us" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; outline: 0px; max-width: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; overflow-wrap: break-word !important; text-align: justify; color: rgb(75, 28, 10); visibility: visible;"><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; padding: 0px; outline: 0px; max-width: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; clear: both; min-height: 1em; text-indent: 2em; visibility: visible; overflow-wrap: break-word !important;">“我与陈某某因未达法定婚龄未进行结婚登记,且未生育子女,经相处确认我们性格不合,不宜缔结婚姻关系,根据《最高人民法院关于适用&lt;中华人民共和国民法典&gt;婚姻家庭编的解释(一)》第五条规定,请求陈某某、陈某兴、严某某应当向我退还彩礼888000元。”</p></section></section></section><p></p><p powered-by="xiumi.us" style="margin-top: 0px; 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box-sizing: border-box; overflow-wrap: break-word !important; transform: translate3d(10px, 0px, 0px);"><section style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px 20px; outline: 0px; max-width: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; overflow-wrap: break-word !important; font-size: 24px; color: rgb(75, 28, 10); text-align: center; letter-spacing: 4px; text-shadow: rgb(255, 255, 255) 1px -1px, rgb(255, 255, 255) 1px 1px, rgb(255, 255, 255) -1px 1px, rgb(255, 255, 255) -1px -1px, rgb(255, 255, 255) 1px 0px, rgb(255, 255, 255) 0px 1px, rgb(255, 255, 255) -1px 0px, rgb(255, 255, 255) 0px -1px; line-height: 1.8;"><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; padding: 0px; outline: 0px; max-width: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; clear: both; min-height: 1em; overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><strong style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; outline: 0px; max-width: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; overflow-wrap: break-word !important;">陈某某、陈某兴、</strong></p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; padding: 0px; outline: 0px; max-width: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; clear: both; min-height: 1em; overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><strong style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; outline: 0px; max-width: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; overflow-wrap: break-word !important;">严某某辩称:</strong></p></section></section></section></section></section><section style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; outline: 0px; max-width: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; overflow-wrap: break-word !important; display: inline-block; vertical-align: top; width: 178.797px; flex: 0 0 auto; height: auto;"><section powered-by="xiumi.us" style="margin: 7px 0px; padding: 0px; outline: 0px; max-width: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; overflow-wrap: break-word !important; transform: perspective(0px) scale(1.1); transform-origin: center center; transform-style: flat;"><section style="margin: 0px 0px -1px; padding: 0px; outline: 0px; max-width: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; overflow-wrap: break-word !important; text-align: center; transform: translate3d(-5px, 0px, 0px) rotateY(180deg);"><section style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; outline: 0px; max-width: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; overflow-wrap: break-word !important; vertical-align: middle; display: inline-block; line-height: 0;"></section></section></section></section></section><section powered-by="xiumi.us" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; outline: 0px; max-width: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: system-ui, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica Neue, PingFang SC, Hiragino Sans GB, Microsoft YaHei UI, Microsoft YaHei, Arial, sans-serif; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); justify-content: flex-start; display: flex; flex-flow: row nowrap; overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><section style="margin: 0px; padding: 30px 20px; outline: 0px; max-width: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; overflow-wrap: break-word !important; display: inline-block; width: 596px; vertical-align: top; align-self: flex-start; flex: 0 0 auto; border-width: 5px; border-style: solid; border-color: rgb(75, 28, 10);"><section powered-by="xiumi.us" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; outline: 0px; max-width: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; overflow-wrap: break-word !important; text-align: justify; color: rgb(75, 28, 10);"><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; padding: 0px; outline: 0px; max-width: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; clear: both; min-height: 1em; text-indent: 2em; overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; outline: 0px; max-width: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; overflow-wrap: break-word !important; font-size: 18px;"><strong style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; outline: 0px; max-width: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; outline: 0px; max-width: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; overflow-wrap: break-word !important; letter-spacing: 0px;">一、本案定性为婚约财产纠纷是错误的,应该是解除同居关系纠纷。</span></strong></span><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; outline: 0px; max-width: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; overflow-wrap: break-word !important; letter-spacing: 0px;">林某某与陈某某举办民俗婚礼后便共同居住生活,对外以夫妻名义共同生活已近一年多,本案的性质已由婚约关系转变成为了同居关系,彩礼应当认定为双方共同财产,依法不应当返还。黄金、见面礼属于赠与性质,不属于彩礼范畴。</span></p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; padding: 0px; outline: 0px; max-width: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; clear: both; min-height: 1em; text-indent: 2em; overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; outline: 0px; max-width: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; overflow-wrap: break-word !important; font-size: 18px;"><strong style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; outline: 0px; max-width: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; overflow-wrap: break-word !important;">二、陈某兴、严某某并非本案适格被告。</strong></span>本案既然是婚约财产纠纷,其诉讼主体应当是解除婚约的男女而不应是其他人,婚约财物的给付是按照当地风俗而为的一种行为,无论是双方父母或是媒人的参与均为一种形式,是一种婚约财物赠与的见证人。从给付和接受的对象上看,婚约财产给付和接受的对象都是特定的,只有订立婚约的人才能以婚约财物相给付和接受。因而,男女双方父母充其量仅是为儿女筹办婚约事宜,不可能成为缔结婚姻的对象。据此,婚约财物纠纷案件应以婚约双方为当事人,而不应该扩展至其父母。</p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; padding: 0px; outline: 0px; max-width: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; clear: both; min-height: 1em; text-indent: 2em; overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; outline: 0px; max-width: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; overflow-wrap: break-word !important; font-size: 18px;"><strong style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; outline: 0px; max-width: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; overflow-wrap: break-word !important;">三、林某某与陈某某同居近一年,实际上与婚姻关系无异。</strong></span>同居期间,林某某没有工作也没有收入,两人的衣食住行、日常生活开销及林某某的医疗费等均由陈某某支出,彩礼用于回礼、双方共同生活开销、为林某某购买金器等花费约200000元,应当予以扣减。</p></section></section></section><p></p><p powered-by="xiumi.us" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; padding: 0px; outline: 0px; max-width: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; clear: both; min-height: 1em; color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: system-ui, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica Neue, PingFang SC, Hiragino Sans GB, Microsoft YaHei UI, Microsoft YaHei, Arial, sans-serif; text-align: justify; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"><br style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; outline: 0px; max-width: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; overflow-wrap: break-word !important;"/></p><p></p><section powered-by="xiumi.us" style="margin: 10px 0px -1px; 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margin-bottom: 10px; padding: 0px; outline: 0px; max-width: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; clear: both; min-height: 1em; text-indent: 2em; overflow-wrap: break-word !important;">林某某与陈某某订立婚约,依照当地嫁娶风俗向陈某某给付彩礼888000元,有银行转账记录为证,予以确认。由于林某某与陈某某自订婚后至今未办理结婚登记手续,现双方因故而分开,为此,林某某要求被告方返还其基于当地嫁娶习俗所给付的彩礼,符合法律规定,予以支持。</p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; padding: 0px; outline: 0px; max-width: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; clear: both; min-height: 1em; text-indent: 2em; overflow-wrap: break-word !important;">虽上述彩礼系由陈某某所收受,但基于三被告间的特定关系,陈某某收受彩礼的行为应视为一种家事行为,应认定系陈某某、陈某兴、严某某共同收受了该彩礼,故陈某某、陈某兴、严某某应对林某某为缔结婚姻所给付的彩礼888000元承担共同返还之义务。</p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; padding: 0px; outline: 0px; max-width: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; clear: both; min-height: 1em; text-indent: 2em; overflow-wrap: break-word !important;">陈某某主张回礼、为林某某购买金器等花费约200000元均由其所收受的彩礼支出,但其提供的证据并不足以证实其上述主张,不予采信。考虑到林某某与陈某某订婚后共同生活时间较短,且共同生活中必然存在一些共同的生活费用支出等情况,兼顾当地善良风俗,认为陈某某、陈某兴、严某某应当酌情返还林某某彩800000元。</p><p style="margin-top: 0px; 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东南林先生 发表于 2022-8-5 16:52:02

一看就是江阴土豪,奇葩的一个地方

在这 发表于 2022-8-5 17:50:18

还没到法定年龄啊

梦想何先生 发表于 2022-8-5 18:47:14

彩礼太贵啦!{:5_231:}

梦想何先生 发表于 2022-8-5 18:47:30

建议取消彩礼啊

梦想何先生 发表于 2022-8-5 18:47:54

结婚为啥要那么多钱

梦想何先生 发表于 2022-8-5 18:48:19

这么多彩礼不正常啊

梦想何先生 发表于 2022-8-5 18:48:44

强烈建议取消彩礼

梦想何先生 发表于 2022-8-5 19:25:57

啥时间彩礼取消啊!

梦想何先生 发表于 2022-8-5 19:26:30

这个观念我想可以改变
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